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6th year in Romania is definitely not equivalent to F1
March 28, 2010
9:01 pm
ella carmaciu

Multumim pentru contributie, Alin.

March 26, 2010
7:57 am
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I was in close contact with various bodies in the UK back in 2007. For me it is clear that the system gives the best chance to local graduates and I find this to be a natural reaction. I believe there is little anybody can realistically do to change this.

Nevertheless, there will be plenty of jobs left after the first national round of recruitment and I believe that if one is wise in preparing their documents and liasing with the local UK decision makers (eg Deanery) FY1s and FY2 jobs are still attainable for foreign medical graduates. I know they used to keep lists of candidates that were not allowed to participate in the first round but were considered later on provided that not enough local candidates applied.

The above is an opinion and should be treated as such.

Do not forget that you always have the option of applying in open competition once the jobs are finally published in BMJ and NHS jobs.

December 8, 2009
6:48 pm
ella carmaciu

I thought the main reason for making it a little difficult to get a FY1 post was related to the fact that the British medical scools graduates should have priority. The graduates from outside UK should be able to apply for FY2 and FY1 posts which have not been taken. I might be wrong and the younger doctors might correct me on this.

I think Britain is now protecting its own graduates, which was not happening before the MMC (Modernising Medical Carreers). I remember that a few years ago British graduates (around 3000/year) had to leave UK in order to find jobs. They were heading to Australia, USA, New Zealand. At that time lots of foreign well trained and experienced doctors were competing for house officer jobs. The hospitals preferred the experienced doctors, of course.

It makes sense to protect the British graduates in Britain.

However, if the director committee of SMR UK think we could have a chance in influencing some change on this subject, then we should try, I suppose. 

December 8, 2009
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Hello there everyone, Is there any chance this rule can be changed? I mean surely there's someone who can do something about this.

Everyone who has finisshed studying medicine in Romania or is currently in 6th year knows very well that 6th year here is not equivalent to F1/internship year. I can testify to that. Now if you tell me the 1st yr residency in romania is equivalent to f1 then not many people will disagree, My point is that, there has to be someone from the ministry of health/education or the big guns in the office that can inform the gmc and the Eu directives that 6th year here is 6th year nothing more and nothing less. I mean this is the main reason why many romanians dont have the chance to experience working in Uk straight after medical school. Just look at poland and the main reason there is a great influx of of polish doctors in UK is because they dont have to worry about their 6th year being equivalent to F1.  The polish ministry of health/education clearly stated that 6th yr there is 6th yr no more. My brother studied in poland and had no problem whatsoever getting an F1 post purely because of this reason. any input would be greatky appreaciated. thanks

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