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Din presa britanica
February 1, 2013
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E asa viral pe cat se scrie pe la noi?

Romanian jokes...with british accent ! 

ha ha that was gooood!

 

Fanu.

" Dacă soarta nu te face să râzi, înseamnă că nu eşti în stare să te prinzi de poantă."

February 1, 2013
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Ecouri ale campaniei Gandul in UK... de citit si comentariile...

The Independent - Worried about immigration? Then go and live in Romania...

 

Si inca un articol din blogul Adevarul al unui roman bursier la Oxford...

 

Adevarul - Sa ne reamintim daca e nevoie!

 

Numai bine,

 

Miha

January 31, 2013
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ha,ha,ha! Bravo Fanu. Merci!

January 31, 2013
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Replica celor de la gandul….

 

Come to Romania!

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Fanu.

" Dacă soarta nu te face să râzi, înseamnă că nu eşti în stare să te prinzi de poantă."

January 18, 2013
1:45 pm
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Vine invazia? Nu prea cred...

CoolClaudiu

July 16, 2012
9:32 am
shrinkescu
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Totul e relativ Fanule...inclusiv fericirea, inclusiv bogatia...si preferintele oamenilor, pt stilul lor de viata, pt slujba mult visata, pt tara mult visata, pt clima, sport, muzica si masini clasice, hahaha...preferintele sunt atat de variate...de gustibus non disputandum...dar numitorul comun totusi ramane dorinta de a fi sanatos, liber, sa traiesti in securitate fizica si financiara si...last, but not least, sa fii iubit!

CoolClaudiu

July 16, 2012
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Interesante puncte de vedere....dar nimic nou sub soare! Traim vremuri grele si masuri de siguranta se impun peste tot in lume! De  remarcat atitudinea prin care isi fac griji ca sindicatele vor avea o opozitie grea daca nu lucreaza la unison...reduceri cu mai putin de 5% (9 mil din 200) sincer...nu mi se pare un capat de tara...la noi au fost -25%, cresterea tva cu 5 pcte procentuale, si mai nou se scumpesc multe din cauza secetei (curent si derivate...adica tot:D)...si colac peste pupaza...mai suntem si de "rasul" UE si SUA...si leul a ajuns in ultimile 2 sapt la un minim istoric....

Or sa suporte "grelele" taieri...si in parerea mea...romanii vor avea de castigat. In lumea asta e fiecare pentru el....si romanul hot sau poate doar "fraier" e deacord sa lucreze si pe mai putin....bine sau rau (strica piata ca sa zic asa:D ) vom vedea....

 

Fanu.

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July 15, 2012
1:47 pm
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Welcome to the NHS!

Doctors 'Should Accept Pay Cut Or Be Sacked'

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Thousands of doctors and nurses may be sacked unless they agree to drastic changes to their pay and conditions as hospitals strive to make billions of pounds worth of savings, it has been claimed.

NHS bosses have suggested terminating all staff contracts and reoffering them on different terms, according to a leaked document obtained by The Sunday Times.

New terms could include pay cuts of up to 5%, an end to overtime for nights, weekends and bank holidays, and reduced holiday leave, the newspaper said.

These measures could affect up to 60,000 health professionals in the South West of England, where chief executives have acknowledged they would need to act "in unison", the paper reports.

The document was prepared by 19 NHS bosses to identify how to maintain patient services in the face of multimillion-pound budget cuts, The Sunday Times adds.

The paper claims at least two other hospitals in Surrey and Manchester have considered the plans, but health chiefs in the South West suggest working together in order to prevent being "singled out" and unable to take on the unions.

They believe that by co-operating they will be able to overcome an "extremely hostile" reaction to the steps, especially if they take the "last resort" of sacking all staff and re-engaging them on less favourable terms, The Sunday Times says.

Earlier this month, the Institute for Fiscal Studies said NHS spending to 2015 will be the tightest four-year period in the past 50 years amid the biggest reorganisation of the health service by the Government.

Monitor , the independent regulator for NHS foundation trusts, has estimated that organisations with a turnover of £200m will need to produce savings of around £9m a year for each year until 2016/17 to remain in financial health.

The chairman of the South West pay, terms and conditions consortium steering group said the NHS faces a time of unprecedented challenge, both financially and in the provision of services to patients.

Chris Brown, who is also chief executive of Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust , did not deny doctors and nurse could be sacked, but said: "As these plans take shape I would like to reiterate our commitment to continue to seek to work positively and constructively with staff as well as unions.

"At the heart of the consortium's work is a shared desire to preserve and protect employment while safeguarding high quality health services for the populations we serve into the future."

June 6, 2012
1:15 pm
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Raposatul tata al meu avea o vorba...la omul sarac, nici boii nu trag, scapa painea in rahat si i se scoala ceva...chiar in biserica...

 

CoolClaudiu

June 6, 2012
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O postare de pe website-ul The Economist ii dojeneste pe romani pentru ca au uitat ca "Dumnezeu iti da, dar nu-ti baga in traista".

May 29, 2012
10:30 pm
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Daca viata profesionala a doctorilor din Anglia, Romania si...pretutindeni continua sa fe deterioreze in loc sa se imbunatateasca, niciun om destept nu se va mai face doctor si noi insine, ajungand pacienti la un moment dat, vom fi tratati de niste semi-docti...trist dar realist scenariu...

 

CoolClaudiu

May 29, 2012
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N-am vazut show-ul de la BBC mentionat mai jos, dar acest comentariu de pe BMJ Careers mi s-a parut demn de atentie, mai ales ca reuseste sa faca trecerea de la particular spre mai general. Iata-i introducerea:

The popular show Your Life in Their Hands follows some foundation trainees at work and at home and has been much discussed by colleagues. Having heard negative comments from seniors about the show, I wondered whether exposing yourself to the media when you are very junior is dangerous. What makes good television probably isn’t best for the junior and might not show the rest of us in a great light.

It has become almost impossible for those of us who watch television to avoid the ubiquitous reality show. Our appetite must be insatiable, for they seem to crop up more and more. Between fat clubbing, grand designing, and master chef-ing, you might have thought there was little space on the airwaves for a new band of brave, fresh faced young people armed with stethoscopes. Alas, some newly qualified foundation trainees have found their way on to the BBC in the second series of Your Life in Their Hands, their minds bursting with incorrect drug doses and an eagerness to prescribe them.

May 20, 2012
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A egalat Chelsea....Goal Drogba!

 

Fanu.

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May 20, 2012
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Instantaneu din timpul zilei de ieri a intalnirii G8. Ce credeti ca se intampla de fapt? Laugh

 

 

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Sursa: BBC Sport Website twitter feed

May 11, 2012
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Un articol recent de pe site-ul BMA abordeaza tema cresterii competitiei pentru posturile de consultant, asemenea celui de la Financial Times pe care l-am postat luna trecuta.

Ambele se bazeaza in mare masura pe cifrele si observatiile inaintate in raportul "Shape of the medical workforce: Starting the debate on the future consultant workforce" de la Centre for Workforce Intelligence (e disponibil in cel putin doua variante: complet sau rezumat).

Au fost analizate mai multe scenarii si au fost descrise efectele pastrarii tendintei actuale:

The scenario modelling predicts that unless action is taken to alter the current trajectories, then there could be:

• more fully trained hospital doctors than the current projected demand suggests will be required

• an increase of over 60 per cent in the fully trained hospital doctor headcount by 2020

• an estimated £6 billion spend on total consultant salary costs, an increase of about £2.2 billion on the 2010 figure, if all eligible doctors become consultants.

Care ar fi morala pentru cei care sunt sau isi doresc sa devina junior doctors in UK? 

We recognise that discussion of a potential oversupply may raise concerns for hospital-based specialty trainees, many with expectations of employment as a consultant as part of their career progression. It is essential that trainees have access to better information to enable them make individual career choices. This will help secure future supply and a good return on investment, as well as help to maintain morale and motivation for current trainees who need to understand what their future is likely to hold.

Sursa: CfWI

Din cate am vazut, un punct de plecare spre o documentare care sa le permita celor care sunt "trainees" sa faca alegeri optime sunt si materialele de pe aceasta pagina pe site-ul CfWI.

Revenind articolul de la BMA, bazat in mare masura pe perspectivele raportului CfWI, cat si pe alte informatii actuale, merita sa-i citez subtitlul:

An NHS workforce crisis is looming, with too many candidates for consultant posts, demand for GPs predicted to soar and junior doctors left guessing about which specialty to compete for

Ar fi multe lucruri pe care ar merita sa le selectez, dar voi aminti doar unul – varsta de pensionare care va fi stabilita in viitor, caci este printre cei mai importanti factori identificati in articol ca avand impact asupra ecuatiei disponibilitatii posturilor de consultant:

Proposals on pension reform are also set to have a considerable impact on the workforce as well as immigration and the impact of EU directives. 

Dr [Mark] Porter [BMA consultants committee chair] says: ‘Age of retirement is the single most sensitive factor affecting the outcome of the problem.’

At the moment, consultants tend to retire at around 62 years old. Dr Porter points to a scenario in the CfWI report which shows that if consultants retired at 60 the problem of oversupply would vanish, because there would be enough posts for all the trainees.

However, the government wants to increase the retirement age to 68, which Dr Porter believes will make the problem worse.

Sursa: BMA

April 25, 2012
4:27 pm
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Ma bag si eu ca musca-n lapte si ma refer strict la ideea abolirii intrarii in sistem pe tip "doar cu buletinul' (adica limba, diploma de licenta , 0 experienta).

Ideea este ca treaba asta apare si in alte tari in care pana acum 2-3 ani multi absolventi sau doctori fara mare experienta puteau face rezi in orice domeniu avand la purtator cetatenia UE si, eventual, un examen de limba luat.

Ma refer aici la Germania, tara care mie personal in momentul de fata mi se pare mult mai accesibila cel putin pe specialitatile mai ravnite si cu raport stil de viata/venituri ok, care, desi are mare nevoie de emigranti (in jur de 200.000/ an pana in 2020 datorita imbatranirii populatiei si pentru mentinerea inflatiei conform statisticilor), au introdus o serie de bariere. 

Astfel, pe langa examenul de limba luat numai de la Goethe, pentru drept de practica dai un test de germana medicala, un articol, o prezentare de caz, deci e bine sa ai experienta practica si sa fii in stare sa explici procedurile unui cetatean de rand.

De ce? Pentru ca multi au fentat inclusiv examenele de limba, lasand la o parte teoria si practica care lipseau cu desavarsire.

Eu am prieteni si fosti colegi care nu au dat rezi si care s-au descurcat si se descurca de minune unde au plecat, altii care au plecat mai tarziu si care la fel, se descurca foarte bine. Dar acestia sunt putini si se descurca fara multe intrebari si ar face fata oricarui sistem. Si care trebuie protejati intr-un fel.

Marea majoritate care vrea sa-si ia zborul si care a ajuns printr-o tara sau alta, sunt de tip: "nu stiu bine limba, nu vreau sa dau examene, vreau in anglia/germania/franta, zice-ti-mi mura-n gura cum sa fac". E suficient sa vedeti forumurile. Aceeasi care evita in general examenele, cand pana la urma ca medic toata viata dai.

Trebuie sa existe o diferenta intre absolventii care s-au tinut de treaba in facultate, care au mai facut un materat/doctorat ulterior, sau au avut experienta practica intr-un fel sau altul si cei care in afara de limba (daca si aia) nu stiau nimic in plus. Gen esti epidemiolog in romania cu rezi picat de 5 ori si peste noapte esti oftalmolog in Berlin, doar cu buletinul si cetatenia UE si diploma de UMF Bucuresti.

Stiu ca UK avea PLAB-urile, USA are STEP, franta si spania au examene nationale..seems legit.

April 20, 2012
9:39 am
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Eu deja i-am spus lui Praslea: numai doctor sa nu te faci!

 

CoolClaudiu

April 20, 2012
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experts are warning that candidates for consultant posts may have to find jobs in Eastern Europe or New Zealand – or accept lower-paid posts than the ones they have spent 15 years training for.

Ca deobicei britanicii astia se cred foarte isteti dar se dovedesc a nu fi prea bine informati cu privire la lumea din afara insulitei lor. As dori eu sa vad cati viitori consultanti vor vrea sa mearga in Europa de Est pe salariile de acolo (care nu vor creste semnificativ in urmatorii ani), ca sa nu mai vorbim de conditiile de lucru si de faptul ca ar fi trebuit sa invete limba tarii respective (dupa ce ca oricum nu stiu limbi straine). Asa ca pericolul ca tarisoara noastra sa fie invadata de consultanti britanici e departe de a fi real.  Yeah, right, am ras una buna...

“We accept there is a problem. All parties involved need to have an urgent debate and get to grips with how the NHS plans its workforce.”

Da, va spun eu ce se va intampla. Va scadea in continuare substantial finantarea NHS, ceea ce va duce la: scaderea salariilor (sau lipsa cresterii lor), respectiv scaderea numarului de medici. Si ca sa multumeasca populatia bastinasa (nemultumita de rata somajului si de numarul in crestere de "invadatori"), criteriile de intrare a medicilor straini in NHS se vor inaspri substantial (vezi articolele aparute recent in presa si amintite si pe acest forum - examen de limba, examen de aptitudini si cunostinte pentru cei cu diploma de specialist obtinuta in tarile de origine, etc). In acest fel vor plati cu mai putini bani mai putini medici, care vor fi mai putini straini si mai multi britanici, si care vor lucra pana peste cap ca sa acopere o norma care in mod normal ar trebui realizata de 2-3 medici nu de unul (ceea ce nu e o problema pentru ei ca oricum "it's so lovely to work all day and have no life whatsoever"). PS: si sa nu uitam de inca o modalitate de scadere a costurilor in NHS: reatribuirea unor responsabilitati de la medici catre nursing staff (diverse proceduri pe care le fac sau le vor face nursele specialiste, linii de garda preluate de catre nurse de la medici, etc), ceea ce are ca si consecinta o cheltuiala mai mica de bani si (no offence) scaderea calitatii unor servicii (adica sa fim seriosi, nu fac canulari venoase dar fac OGD, colposcopii si alte proceduri, azi maine vor trece si la apendicectomii si cine stie ce altele).

Are you happy with that ? Lovely!

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Post cenzurat - autorul a fost prea slobod la gura.

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Pentru ca un duș rece, realist nu strica atunci cand este cazul:

Glut of doctors loom in UK

by Sally Gainsbury and Sarah Neville

 

Thousands of junior doctors and medical students could have to take jobs overseas as the cash-strapped NHS faces an oversupply of 20,000 doctors.

The stark message about a looming glut has been set out in an official workforce assessment for the Department of Health. It warns that the number of medical students and junior doctors who could potentially end up qualifying as top-level hospital consultants is set to swell from about 40,000 today to more than 60,000 by the end of the decade.

But with the NHS pay bill unlikely to rise as the service struggles to meet a £40bn savings target, experts are warning that candidates for consultant posts may have to find jobs in Eastern Europe or New Zealand – or accept lower-paid posts than the ones they have spent 15 years training for.

NHS England, which currently invests £2.8bn a year on doctor training, could see some of this outlay go to waste.

Deciding how many doctors Britain needs is notoriously difficult. The current situation has arisen in part from the boom-and-bust nature of NHS funding, coupled with deliberate moves by the previous Labour government to increase numbers of doctors and medical students.

The implications of the report by the Centre for Workforce Intelligence are being debated by NHS managers, medical colleges and the British Medical Association.

According to the report, NHS England’s pay bill would rise £2.2bn before inflation if students and junior doctors were to secure consultant posts at the current pace – a prospect described as “not tenable” by Peter Sharp, CWI chief executive.“The people are already in the system,” Mr Sharp told the Financial Times this week. “These numbers for 2020 are not notional; they are real people.”

The estimate takes into account consultants retiring during the next eight years.

Mark Porter, chair of the BMA’s consultant committee, said that urgent action was needed to “stop the stupidity of people qualifying for jobs that aren’t going to exist.”

The health department said that he government would “welcome a debate that looks at how hospitals can change the way they work”, in an effort to absorb at least part of the oversupply.

Options being considered include a “sub-consultant grade” post to be filled by medics with the same qualifications as hospital consultants but on substantially less pay than the current £108,000 median for NHS consultants.

Mr Sharp also revealed that the UK is in talks at a European Union level to develop “some sort of managed programme of movement”, under which junior doctors would embark on a “one to three-year sojourn” to countries where their services were in short supply.

The highest vacancy rates for doctors are currently in eastern European countries, but other options include Australia and New Zealand.

“This has been a growing issue for some time, and we can no longer ignore it,” said NHS Employers, which negotiates NHS staff pay on behalf of hospitals.

“We accept there is a problem. All parties involved need to have an urgent debate and get to grips with how the NHS plans its workforce.”

Sursa: Financial Times, via Centre for Workforce Intelligence, unde se gaseste si raportul mentionat in articol 

(pentru acces este necesara inregistrarea gratuita pe FT, de aceea am inclus intregul text in postare)

 
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